War has nothing to do with morality. Political ends are in themselves "moral" to those who believe that a particular political end serves their purposes. War and conflicts are a means to a political end, nothing more.
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There is no right and wrong
by campaign of hate inso i am a little tangled up in this train of thought, as it can go quite deep.. as a jw, albeit fully awake, we are taught that there is right and a wrong.
smoking is wrong.
going on the ministry is right.
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Education makes you leave God
by FusionTheism inquote from the watchtower, simplified edition, september 2015, "how can we show that we love jehovah?".
higher education often makes them lose their love for god..
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The Society should send this gem to Christianity's universities and seminaries. The former Pope Benedict, a highly educated man, believes in God. Raymond Franz a self-educated man was a believer in God. Educated Christian ministers believe in God. Educated men from all walks of life believe in God.
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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.
by LAWHFol inif crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.
i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?
if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.
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Does The Governing Body Have Enemies At Bethel?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini would think that a lot of resentment is building up for these for these guys at bethel even though it may not be discussed openly for fear of being abused by the gb in some way.. any way looking at their personality and the extreme phoniness of rubber mouth/face lett, and am#3, and the chicken shit coward leosch who won't even show up in court when subpoena'd to defend his faith or policies, and i'm sure they have many more undesirable traits that repel people instead of attract and that has to work its toll on relationships they have at bethel.. and this shunning thing i'm sure must really erk some at god's house and while they may not be free to voice their discontent i feel it must be building because these guys are complete nincompoops when it come to reality and the only way they know how to give direction is with fear and guilt which i'm sure is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.. and let not forget the issues that are raise when they stole all the congregations savings and the pledge drive for more cash, ban on higher education, lawsuit pay out and etc.... what is this doing to the relation ship they have with legal and accounting i see trouble brewing right thier in the spiritual pair of dice..
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New Thought About Active J.W.'s
by The Searcher infrom my own observations & conversations with selected active j.w.
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The Searcher,
I wholeheartedly agree. Everyone who silently endures repression is not a moron. A significant number are practicing a holding in place mode, JWs waiting for the other shoe to drop. This results in a work slowdown.
The Watchtower is feeling this in their donations, field service reports, lack of enough young brothers offering themselves up to take the lead, meeting attendance, and in the general malaise that has hit many congregations in the west.
The other group you mention, the super loyal group, would be ready to follow satan if he disguised himself as a JW leader. Anthony Morris comes to mind.
Frank
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Why would anyone want to join jovie world?
by Doltologist ini can understand why someone who was born of jovie parents would want to leave jovie world.
i can see why someone who had joined jovie world would want to leave.
after all, why would you want to stay in such an evil institution?.
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Anybody have any experience with this?
by stillin inan elderly sister passed away recently.
family came to her memorial service from all over the country.
some of them, including grown-up, disfellowshipped children of hers, also came.
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Her JW family is responsible. They could have arranged for a close family gathering immediately after the memorial talk but before the general gathering. But they did not.
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Why would anyone want to join jovie world?
by Doltologist ini can understand why someone who was born of jovie parents would want to leave jovie world.
i can see why someone who had joined jovie world would want to leave.
after all, why would you want to stay in such an evil institution?.
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It's an emotional thing
by Doltologist ini have exchanged posts with a number of you in the short time that i've been a member of this most excellent forum.. as i initially posted, i have aspergers syndrome.
in my case it is both severe and mild.
it is mild in that unless you talked to me for some time you would only think me a little odd.
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Belief in God is not a emotional thing. It is the recognition that we are not alone. That the physical world around us is more than the result of a blind natural selection that just happened to make a place so unimaginably beautiful.
Logic dictates a belief in a higher power. Emotion comes into play when we acknowledge that we have been the recipients of such wonder. That emotion is called love.
Frank
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Why would anyone want to join jovie world?
by Doltologist ini can understand why someone who was born of jovie parents would want to leave jovie world.
i can see why someone who had joined jovie world would want to leave.
after all, why would you want to stay in such an evil institution?.
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Doltologist, Yup.
Then that would apply to Jim Penton, Ray Franz, Carl Olaf Jonsson, Ed Dunlap and others. The very men who originally put exJWs on the map. Religtards the whole lot.
Perhaps we should not then trust a word they said because as "religtards" they cannot be trusted to be of sound mind.
Throw out COC and Christian Freedom because a Religtard wrote it and who can say if he was in his right mind when he did.
I say this not only to you but to all here who claim to be atheists. You should not credit Raymond Franz with being of sound mind for after all he was a believer in what atheists call a myth, a sky god, and therefore in effect out of his mind.
Frank